Stolen Valor

A recent news story regarding a Fake Army Nurse( Vietnam and Iraq Wars) that stole a seat on an Honor Flight to Washington D.C. gave some one the idea to start a Dishonor Flight but there are certain criteria :
1) Must possess a forged or blurred ,in the proper spaces, DD-214 or claim that your records were destroyed in the 1973 fire at the NPRC. Note: a certified copy will not be accepted .
2)Must wear a leather vest with as many pins and,or patches that you can fit.
3)If you are wearing a ribbon stack or any medals they must be arranged out of order and any combat medals can not be DOD engraved.
4) Must have the proper Combat Veterans hat with the war of choice,even if you were to young or old at the time of conflict.
5) Must be able to tell at least one war story that can not be verified or that you were the lone survivor. Better if you were captured and escaped
6) If you require a service animal you must have the proper fake papers to be seated in first class
You can contact Juan A Bee at the dishonor flight HQ.

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25 thoughts on “Stolen Valor”

  1. I assume you are referring to the 84 year old Maggie,retired Ltcol that received the Silver Star for combat in Vietnam? No woman received the Silver Star in the time between WW2 and Iraq/Afghan wars. Also read this is not her first rodeo there are claims that this was her 4th flight. That criteria for the dishonor flight is great!! I know guys that wear that kind of stuff almost everyday Bill 0331

    1. I was in Nam 1966/1967. I never saw a “round eye” of the female gender my entire tour until my last day in-country. That was when I went to the big PX at Da Nang and saw a few “doughnut dolly’s” working there ….. Bob 1381

      1. Hey Bob late in my TOD I took an in-country R&R at Marble Mt.(China Beach) got hooked up with a really cute (DELTA-DELTA) Red Cross worker. It cost me though!! I was broke in no time!! Harry

        1. Harry……Weren’t you in the Engineers at Dong Ha in 1967? We left Camp Evans around February or March 1967 and moved to Dong Ha. I was in A Co 3rd Shore Party over on the south side of the air strip next to the big ammo dump. Luckily I rotated back back to the USA before the NVA hit the dump with artillery. I heard from a buddy of mine that was still there when the ammo dump was blown. The way he talked, ordinance was blown up and some came down and demolished the entire Shore Party area. Engineers came over in trucks and got them out. He also said that they had spent many, many hours in bunkers due to the falling ordinance. Bob 1381

          1. Hey Bob, Was never in Dong Ha I was 7th engr. based out of Camp Love about 10 miles north of Da Nang just west of Red Beach (FLC) Spent time mostly at the Liberty Bridge ,Dia-Loc area or south near Hoi An sometime north through Hai Van Pass Harry 1371

  2. I love the criteria for the dishonor flight. But are you guys serious, some lady of 84 years was able to get on a flight. Hey give the old lady some props, she is not just sitting around to die. Of course I totally don’t understand why people do this but jeez 84 years old and playing real life charades. I think they all should have to be thrown in combat just for the hell of it. I doubt very many come home but that would be a righteous penalty.
    Mark 0317

    1. This was Maggie Desanti claims to be retired army nurse that flew into comat and rappelled into the fight to help treat the wounded She got famous a few weeks ago when she got her shot on TV whenshe challenged a TSA agent to pushups. Read that she was already outed in 2014 when someone question her Silver Star and the Global war on terrorism ribbon. Her story at that time was that a General told her she was put in for it so she is authorized to wear it. Also stated she was recalled to active duty after the 9/11 attacks (She would have been 66 years old at the time) thats how she got her Terrorism ribbon. Oh and said she retired a Capt but received a field promotion to Lt/Col in Iraq. The people at Stolen Valor have made at least 3 attempts to get her military record s but always come up MT

  3. Like many of you, I will never understand why people feel that they have to embellish or glorify their participation in any situation, location or service, even when just being there was heroic enough. After I retired from the Corps, I worked for the VA for about five and half years. My first job was as a new patient intake interviewer. Most WWII and Korean War vets were very humble and most always honest about their service. But for some reason the Vietnam vets were the most fictitious and outlandish, especially the Army and Air Farce. Very few had any type of discharge papers or any proof of service. I was totally amazed by how many were attached to clandestine units in Laos, Cambodia and Thailand, always involved in super-secret activity for which they still couldn’t speak or tell about. Either that, or a scout-sniper with hundreds of kills. A Hospital Inquiry of the eligibility system would usually indicate that they were just another dog-face, fly-boy or jar-head, some never serving outside of the continental United States. But I suppose that wannabes have always, and will always be with us. Maybe its just human nature. Semper Fi!!

    1. MSgt,
      Funny story (but sad all the same) a few years back i was volunteering at a half-way house where the occupants were supposed to be veterans. We would go there four times a year to cook chow for them and then sit with them to eat and mingle and generally BS with them as well. Sgt Grit was generous enough to provide tee-shirts and sweatshirts for the Marine vets who were living there. I had no proof of who was actually a Marine or who was a fake, but there was this old lifer Viet Nam vet Gunny there who was always able to run interference for me and tell me who was real and who was full of shit. So I show up for the winter meal just before Christmas with the Grit gifts, but there was one new guy that the ole Gunny was not able to verify yet, but the guy told me he was a Marine and I had an extra shirt so I gave him one. He yells over to me, “Hey, I’m a Marine, you got a shirt for me?” When the meal was over and I was leaving I went around to all of the Vets living there and thanked them for his or her service and as I walked outside I saw the guy who claimed to be a Marine and I yelled over to him, “Merry Christmas Jarhead!” And he replied to me, “MF-er don’t call me no Jarhead, what’s wrong with you!” I replied, “Hey, gimme that shirt back” and just then one of the occupants who actually was a Marine, tore into him and yelled, Haa, yeah I thought your ass was fake, you don’t know what a Jarhead is, do you know the Marine Corp birthday M F-er?”. These pieces of human dung probably number more than the actual veterans who served. Sad.

      0331 Mike

  4. I often ask when seeing someone out in public wearing a Viet Nam veteran (especially Marine) identifier what their MOS was. Almost always the reply was door gunner, grunt, recon, or sniper. Makes me wonder what happened to all the admin, supply, and motor T guys.

    1. That is so true. I served 1966-1996 Viet Nam only once Mar67 to Apr 68 yes there for the TET. I was Motor T. Ret as Sgt Maj (10 yr and 9 mo TIG. I go to the V.A. Hosp and I am the only one there that was not door gunner, grunt, recon, or sniper, Seal, Ranger and the list go on. Fire fights that lasted only 10 min in 1967 now last all night. LMFAO.

  5. Let it be known, I am not a vindictive or mean individual, but people who are “STOLEN VALOR” want a be’s are mentally unstable, or have accomplished NOTHING in their miserable”O” pathetic life. One of my honors in life was to serve my country, HONORABLY & PROUDLY ln the United States Marine Corp! 1973-1978. 0311-grunt, 0341- 81mm, & 2111-armory tech. Hoorah , Marine Corp. By the way, cattle prods & stolen valor a__holes, just go together, just saying. SEMPER FIDELIS!

    1. Terry, I’m totally in agreement brother. This 84 year old lady must have some kind of mental deficiencies . Maybe it’s time for her family to step up to the plate and take Maggie on a tour to the local mental ward or retirement home and then lose her there. This lady is pathetic, so sad!
      SEMPER FI to all my real Marine Brothers!

  6. I work with many veterans, all eras and services, and now and again encounter the guy with the “I was there but the service lost (or didn’t enter or acknowledge) my duty stations” story. My favorite was one mope who was bragging about being assigned to ‘Special Services’ in Cambodia and Laos.

    I asked him if he was ever required to fill the ‘Mark 2 Type IV Ball, Volley, Outdoor’ with air as part of his duties with Special Services … blank look. Then I explained what Special Services is, versus Special Forces. Never saw him again …

    On the other side of this is the veteran who never heard a shot fired or never left CONUS but may file with PTSD. Don’t judge someone until you know their back story. One vet served three years at Dover AFB unloading caskets; yes, he has PTSD. We all handle stress differently and let’s be kind to ourselves and our brothers and sisters.

    1. Hi ‘Stoney’ I agree with you about the PTSD I have been attending Veterans PTS groups for many years and have encounter more than a few that were involved with events other than combat (vehicle accidents, aviation accidents etc..) a lot of survivor guilt that can be very debilitating. I remember one guy (Motor T) that was ordered to dump his load of “av-gas ” in a village to help burn out the bad guys. i guess they were not all bad guys.. Also sexual trauma is really hard to deal with. So yes you don’t have to have been in combat to get help for PTS

  7. I am 74 years old. I met a woman at the local VA Clinic who appeared to be at least 15 years or so younger than me. Upon seeing my USMC Vietnam Veteran cover she struck up a conversation and told me that she was in the Marines and drove a tank in Vietnam?!?!?

    1. I just wonder if sh3e drove an automatic or a stick shift. As you describe her age she was born in about 1964 (that would make her 55) she must have went to Viet Nam on a pleasure tour. lol I drove, 2 by’s, 4 by’s, 6by’s. Never drove one that bend in the middle and go cha choo. my outfit was so poor we didn’t even have a ring mount. Me and two others went to 50 cal school at the Stumps in Sec 66 and wound up in the same Co in Nam.

      1. Raymond….I was a Shore Party Man but drove a 6X on the daily convoy from Camp Evans to Phu Bia and back for about 2 weeks in Jan ’67 after our regular driver rotated home. We didn’t have a 50 cal ring either. As a matter of fact, we didn’t even have a 50 cal with us…..Bob 1381

  8. If you earned it. Be proud of it. I always show it. In the cover I wear, t-shirts, coats and vest. Once a Marine always a Marine. And I hear the same bs out there. But after twenty-four years in the Corps. I know “earned never given”. Semper Fi

    1. I hear you TRA but I have been burned many times by “Wana-be’s wearing all that crap that i don’t even acknowledge them any more. If I see a person out and about wearing even just the hat I no longer go up to them and try to engage in conversation,its just not worth it. I choose to show my pride on Veterans Day,Memorial Day and of course “The Birthday”. Go to one of the many Stolen Valor web sites and look at all the photos of the outed stolen valor crowd and you will see what I mean The most are all decked out with all that stuff that can be bought any where (sorry grit) But, thats just my feeling on this. Bill 0331

  9. Really enjoyed the ‘dishonor’ flight story. Thanks. In Mazrch of 1967, 1/9 come off an operation into DMZ. When we got down by a road there were two tents set up. The red cross had set up a chow line to feed up hot food. We filed into a tent and were issued a metal tray with chicken, mashed potatoes and beans. The problem was that the rain was so strong my mashed taters were almost washed overboard. The round eyed red cross workers reminded us of our mothers as the youngest was about 45 years old. Good chicken though.

    1. Hey Gene I have a good buddy that was with C-1/9 early 66-67 One of the ops he will talk about was Deckhouse V in the Mekong Came off float on the IWO JIMA Harry

  10. Dear Sgt. Grit, In order to make it clear who’s a TRUE or a WANTABE, everyone who was in any branch of the military will be required to buy a t-shirt from you with their DD214 printed on the back and wear it at all times. LOL

      1. Years ago a” Veteran” came to our Legion to join his DD-14 showed Vietnam Service Medal and Campaign Medal but no overseas service.All of his time was accounted for but no sea duty or overseas duty . A closer look revealed that another type writer was used to forge it.What a dumb ass

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